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So, if Adam is not a literal, historic figure, then effectively nothing of the Bible can be taken at face value, a fact that atheists seem to appreciate more than many evangelicals! Even worse, the whole justification for Jesus coming to die for us is destroyed and, with it, our redemption.

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Furthermore, if there was no death prior to Adam Romans , there is no room for evolution at all—it is completely ruled out. That only leaves long ages prior to Genesis —but for what purpose? If we are to accept the Bible from the creation of Adam onwards, why would we even question God with the remaining few verses? We have supplied this link to an article on an external website in good faith. But we cannot assume responsibility for, nor be taken as endorsing in any way, any other content or links on any such site. Even the article we are directing you to could, in principle, change without notice on sites we do not control.

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References This article has been adapted from Birch, R. Return to text. Erickson, M. Helpful Resources. Creation Without Compromise Original. Soft cover. US September 6th, This may be a stupid question, but what does "CV" mean?

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Did I miss something? If it says in the text, I must just be overlooking it. Tas Walker September 6th, A CV provides an overview of a person's experience and other qualifications and is sent to prospective employers so they can see if a person is qualified to do the job. Paul H. US April 7th, I am only saying that for God to communicate with us, He must necessarily speak to us in the same time-language He created for us. To do differently would be nonsense. The difference between what God actually did and what He actually said He would do must be expressed in the same way unless we are clearly told otherwise.

That is, on Day 4 God actually completed the astronomical clock that He had begun on Day 1 by the rotating sphere in the presence of a light source that had an evening and morning starting on Day 1. Certainly God may have His own separate and personal way of accounting for or measuring time 2 Peter but the time-measuring system that He created for us was settled for us on Day 4 and will remain the same until the end of the world Genesis During the creation week God said something each day and He did what He said, i.

When Moses wrote down in Genesis 1 what God said He said and what God said He did, it must necessarily reflect what God originally said and did. Moses cannot write down something different like adhere to another time system unless Moses was not writing Scripture, or at least, God would have had to clue Moses in as to what this other system was in order for us to change tracks and come to another understanding of it.

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Faith in God. To wit, in a letter of , the Father general asked Horace Boissat to send books from Lyons to Spain. In the provincial correspondence, we also find this kind of intervention by the father general -- changes to the title of a book 27 or corrections in the margins of the proofs [or manuscript], especially in doctrinal texts This system of control led some authors to develop clandestine strategies of diffusion For example, Michel de Elizade, a Spanish writer who tried to publish clandestinely his book, De Recta doctrina morum in Lyons under the pseudonym of Antoine Celladei.

Seven-hundred and fifty copies were printed before superiors could stop him Roman sources on censorship complete impression given by provincial sources. Three hundred and fourty-five Jesuit books have been discovered to have been censored in Lyons between and As a consequence of this policing of books, philosophical publishing declined in Lyons.

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  • The case of the Society of Jesus, particularly well-documented in this respect, make it possible to draw several conclusions. This case is evidently not isolated, and instead reflects internal transformations in the conditions surrounding the production of knowledge. But, the obstacles restricting the circulation of Cartesian philosophy inside the Society of Jesus necessitates also overcoming the simple opposition between dissimulation and resistance on the one hand, and norms and constraints on the other, which informs most analyses.

    In addition, it is important not to generalize too rapidly concerning the effectiveness of prohibitions. The traditional historiography of jesuit anti-Cartesianism has tirelessly invoked sources like legislative texts or polemical writings which were systematically produced at moments when consensus between the authorities and Cartesians circles collapsed, and likewise has failed to reflect on the modes of communication adopted by the two sides, as well as on the forms of negotiation which made up the ordinary practice of controlling printing and producing knowledge inside the Order.

    Through this practices, we understand also the device of interessement and of mobilization of numerous allies, to build a constraining network of relationship. Here the emphasis was on the political ties of Jesuit writers, as evident in an inquiry found in the correspondence of Chancelor Seguier. Indeed, to read dedications of these books confirms that ordinary pratices of patronage supported writers in the Society of Jesus in France.

    In Lyons, one-hundred and fifty-four texts were dedicated to such local institutions as the corporation of city or to aristocrats. Father Menestrier, from whom we have 69 dedications, mobilized several networks to publish his books These urban congregation became one of the important public for jesuit writers during the 17th and 18th Centuries. On the other hand, dedications could also open up the closed circles of local colleges to include a wider variety of powers at court.

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    At the highest levels, a few French Jesuits maintained political ties to the King and loyalty to the Pope during the Affair of Regale But, this consensus and the social alliances which the network implies can be contested at any moment The answer was not clear, even at the dawn of the eighteenth Century, as seen in three final examples.

    Moreover, in this huge corpus, there is a chronological dispersion, which emphasizes the very brief, intense period in which these struggles and tensions emerged.

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    The controversy is all the manifestations by which the representativity of j esuit authors is questioned, discussed, negociated or rejected. In m arch , the Father General Michel-Angelo Tamburini asked to the provincial visitor, Father Jean-Joseph Guibert, to see the conditions to settle a group of writers in the college of Toulouse. This document, which is a very rare example among documents in the j esuit archives, demonstrates the double evolution of the Society of Jesus.

    First, this letter highlights the link between the Roman center and the provincial peripheries, by showing that the center was not exclusively in Rome, but also in Paris. The Society had, by this point, integrated the new cultural pattern. In fact, in , the Father General Oliva already had forbidden Toulousian j esuits to travel to Paris without permission Through the catalogs, we can measure the intensity of this mobility inside the French Assistance, particularly concerning Toulouse, Champagne and Lyon.

    Among the criteria, we see an emphasis on local, financial patronage. Father Mourgues received from the capitoulat, a pension of livres each year. Through this criterion, he wanted to build an intellectual group with a very strong public identity. The jansenist movement, which was very significant in Toulouse, further justified this strategy. This confrontation by letters was arbitrated by the Father General in Rome. Through it, we can see a generalization of a local conflict which expressed the condition of autonomisation of written activities inside the society of Jesus.

    Catherine Northeast in her book Parisian Jesuit and the Enlightenement 46 has described the context of this polemic at the beginning of the eighteenth century. In , the Father provincial Delaistre wished to give up the j esuit participation to the j ansenist controversy in Paris. That same year, a meeting was organised in the College of LLG, with the Parisian scriptores , to put an end to the polemics.

    After the publication of the Papal Bulle Unigenitus, the Father General Tamburini asked Parisian scriptores to give an expert opinion on theological questions. According to him, they contravened the common life of the j esuit community by reading and buying forbidden books In fact, their practices were very similar to the norms of the scientific exchange in the Republic of Letters described by Ann Golgar. These practices would have been contrary to the ideal of reserved, Jesuit communication.

    Beside Lallemant, we find les PP. Je pardonne du reste au P. L'histoire du P. Gaillard au monde. Already in the last decades of seventeenth century, most important j esuit writers at the Court, such as Father Bouhours or Father Menestrier, complained about the judgment of their superior. At the end of the polemic, Father Gaillard obtained satisfaction, and the group of scriptores was dissolved. These three, final points remind us of difficulties of adapting apostolate to modernity.

    The twin economics of j esuit authorship shows the impossibility of understanding their literary work as a separate activity inside the community. In fact, the Society of Jesus adapted its spirituality and its institutions to the literary field as we can say in the b ourdesian interpretation of the birth of professional writer. But, at the margins of the litterary field, the question of the limits of this apostolate is still in debate during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries. The identity of jesuit men of letters was frequently negotiated in this period in Europe.

    The actors studied were confronted with different types of uncertainties and worked incessantly to forge alliances and to stabilize their practices for a certain location at a particular time. Messerli et R. Chartier dir.